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Heating blocks for Thermo shaker LLG-uni1 and 2

LLG Labware (80)

Heating blocks for Thermo shaker LLG-uniTHERMIX 1 and 2

PN	Manuf. PN	Supplier	For	PK	Price
6263474	6263474	LLG Labware	96 well PCR plates non-skirted, 0.2 ml tubes*	1	454.86 EU
6263475	6263475	LLG Labware	24 tubes, 0.5 ml*	1	454.86 EU
6263476	6263476	LLG Labware	24 tubes, 1.5 ml*	1	454.86 EU
6263477	6263477	LLG Labware	24 tubes, 2.0 ml*	1	454.86 EU
6263478	6263478	LLG Labware	8 tubes, 15 ml, max. 800 rpm	1	562.35 EU
6263479	6263479	LLG Labware	4 tubes, 50 ml, max. 600 rpm	1	555.44 EU
6263480	6263480	LLG Labware	96/384 micro plate*	1	454.86 EU
6263481	6263481	LLG Labware	8 tubes, 5 ml	1	482.51 EU

Exchangeable blocks Eppendorf SmartBlocks and accessories for Eppendorf ThermoMixer C and Thermo

Eppendorf SE (9611)

Exchangeable blocks Eppendorf SmartBlocks™ and accessories for Eppendorf ThermoMixer™ C and ThermoStat C
Exchangeable blocks:
Flexibility has never been this easy. Eppendorf offers a variety of SmartBlocks? for tubes from 0.5ml to 50ml.
-Fast and simple block exchange due to Eppendorf Quick Release
-Optimized block design guarantees maximum temperature transfer to the sample

Transfer Racks:
-Autoclavable transport aid for tubes from 0.5 to 2.0 ml
-For transferring up to 24 tubes in / from the heating block at the same time
-Offers protection against burns when transferring hot samples

SmartExtender:
A heatable frame/attachment for mixer, with separate temperature control (3 °C above RT to 110 °C), for simultaneous operation at two different temperatures.
-Enables 2 incubations at the same time

PN	Manuf. PN	Supplier	Description	PK	Type	Price
9776908	5362000035	Eppendorf SE	24 tubes, 2.0 ml	1	Eppendorf SmartBlock™ 2.0 ml	952.94 EU
4664579	5322000008	Eppendorf SE	12 tubes 1.5 ... 2.0 ml	1	Eppendorf SmartExtender™	1251.47 EU
4671523	5310000002	Eppendorf SE	For Eppendorf Deepwell plates 96/1000 µL, incl. lid	1	Eppendorf SmartBlock™ DWP 1000	1183.82 EU
4671524	5316000004	Eppendorf SE	For Eppendorf Deepwell plates 96/500 µL, incl. lid	1	Eppendorf SmartBlock™ DWP 500	1183.82 EU
4680291	5318000001	Eppendorf SE	24 cryogenic tubes, 1.5 ... 2.0 ml, all bottom forms	1	Eppendorf SmartBlock™ cryo thaw	952.94 EU
6280935	3880000151	Eppendorf SE	For 24 tubes, 1.5 ... 2.0 ml	1	Transfer Rack	74.71 EU
6280936	3880000305	Eppendorf SE	For 24 tubes, 0.5 ml	1	Transfer Rack	74.71 EU
9776906	5361000031	Eppendorf SE	24 tubes, 0.5 ml	1	Eppendorf SmartBlock™ 0.5 ml	952.94 EU
9776909	5309000007	Eppendorf SE	8 Eppendorf Tubes®, 5.0 ml	1	Eppendorf SmartBlock™ 5.0 ml	952.94 EU
9776910	5366000021	Eppendorf SE	8 conical tubes, 15 ml	1	Eppendorf SmartBlock™ 15 ml	967.68 EU
9776911	5365000028	Eppendorf SE	4 conical tubes, 50 ml	1	Eppendorf SmartBlock™ 50 ml	952.94 EU
9776912	5364000024	Eppendorf SE	24 tubes, diam. 11 ... 11.9 mm	1	Eppendorf SmartBlock™ 12 mm	1183.82 EU
9776914	5363000039	Eppendorf SE	For micro plates and Deepwell plates, incl. lid	1	Eppendorf SmartBlock™ plates	1183.82 EU
9776915	5306000006	Eppendorf SE	PCR plates 96, incl. lid	1	Eppendorf SmartBlock™ PCR 96	1183.82 EU

Exchangeable blocks Eppendorf SmartBlocks™ and accessories for Eppendorf ThermoMixer™ C and Thermo

Eppendorf SE (9611)

Exchangeable blocks Eppendorf SmartBlocks™ and accessories for Eppendorf ThermoMixer™ C and ThermoStat C
Exchangeable blocks:
Flexibility has never been this easy. Eppendorf offers a variety of SmartBlocks? for tubes from 0.5ml to 50ml.
-Fast and simple block exchange due to Eppendorf Quick Release
-Optimized block design guarantees maximum temperature transfer to the sample

Transfer Racks:
-Autoclavable transport aid for tubes from 0.5 to 2.0 ml
-For transferring up to 24 tubes in / from the heating block at the same time
-Offers protection against burns when transferring hot samples

SmartExtender:
A heatable frame/attachment for mixer, with separate temperature control (3 °C above RT to 110 °C), for simultaneous operation at two different temperatures.
-Enables 2 incubations at the same time

PN	Manuf. PN	Supplier		Description	PK	Type								General	Price	Quantity	Status	Add
9776907	5360000038	Eppendorf SE		24 tubes, 1.5 ml	1	Eppendorf SmartBlock™ 1.5 ml									855.88 EU
9776916	5307000000	Eppendorf SE		PCR plates 384, incl. lid	1	Eppendorf SmartBlock™ PCR 384									1063.24 EU

Heating blocks for Thermo shaker LLG-uni1 and 2 pro

LLG Labware (7913)

Heating blocks for Thermo shaker LLG-uniTHERMIX 1 and 2 pro

PN	Manuf. PN	Supplier	For	PK	Price
6263487	6263487	LLG Labware	24 tubes, 1.5 ml	1	507.35 EU
6263494	6263494	LLG Labware	24 tubes, 2 ml	1	507.35 EU
6263495	6263495	LLG Labware	8 tubes, 5 ml	1	530.88 EU
6263497	6263497	LLG Labware	4 tubes, 50 ml	1	601.92 EU
6317330	6317330	LLG Labware	8 Eppendorf Tubes® 5.0 mL	1	531.91 EU
6263486	6263486	LLG Labware	24 tubes, 0.5 ml	1	507.35 EU
6263496	6263496	LLG Labware	8 tubes, 15 ml	1	601.92 EU
6263498	6263498	LLG Labware	96 well PCR plates, 0.2 ml tubes	1	530.88 EU
6263499	6263499	LLG Labware	96/384 microplate	1	530.88 EU

Accessories for ThermoMixers and BlockThermostats

Hettich Benelux B.V. (8840)

Accessories for ThermoMixers and BlockThermostats

PN	Manuf. PN	Supplier	Description	PK	Type	Price
9777138	800012800	Hettich Benelux B.V.	Lid for block insulation	1	BI 01	108.82 EU
9777142	800013800	Hettich Benelux B.V.	Tempering cover for devices with 1 block, transparent, for high tubes	1	BT 01	440.53 EU
9777143	800013900	Hettich Benelux B.V.	Tempering cover for devices with 2 blocks, transparent, for high tubes	1	BT 02	470.59 EU
9777144	800012900	Hettich Benelux B.V.	Anti-condensate plate for 1 block with micro tubes*	1	BA 24	310.29 EU
9777145	800013000	Hettich Benelux B.V.	Anti-condensate plate for 1 block with PCR and test plates**	1	BA 96	310.29 EU
9777146	800012501	Hettich Benelux B.V.	Heating lid (200W), connects with cooling devices, for blocks for micro tubes and PCR plates	1	BH 10	813.24 EU
9777147	800013100	Hettich Benelux B.V.	Assembly rack with stand for 0.5ml tubes	1	BR 05	217.65 EU
9777148	800014300	Hettich Benelux B.V.	Assembly rack with stand for 1.5ml and 2.0ml tubes	1	BR 15	217.65 EU

Aluminium blocks for block heaters BH-200 series

Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart) (5403)

Aluminium blocks for block heaters BH-200 series

PN	Manuf. PN	Supplier	For	PK	Price
9951617	SHT1/10	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	20 x 10.5mm Ø tubes	1	323.82 EU
9951618	SHT1/12	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	20 x 12.5 mm Ø tubes	1	323.82 EU
9951619	SHT1/16	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	12 x 16.5 mm Ø tubes	1	319.41 EU
9951620	SHT1/19	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	8 x 19.5 mm Ø tubes	1	323.82 EU
9951621	SHT1/0	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	Solid, for user to drill as required	1	307.16 EU
9951622	SHT1/48	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	48 x 0.2 ml centrifuge tubes	1	398.24 EU
9951623	SHT1/22	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	20 x 1.5 ml Eppendorf Tubes®	1	319.41 EU
9951624	SHT1/20	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	20 x 2.0 ml Eppendorf Tubes®	1	323.82 EU
9951625	SHT1/21	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	15 x 10 mm cuvettes	1	325.88 EU

Block Heaters, analogue and digital, BH-200 series

Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart) (6166)

Block Heaters, analogue and digital, BH-200 series
-choice of either analogue or digital models
-digital models available with either 130 or 200 °C maximum temperature
-three block model for extra capacity
-dual control models have two blocks with independent temperature control
-uniform and stable block temperatures
Designed for the precise heating of test-tubes, microcentrifuge tubes, cuvettes and microplates.
Range compromises an economical analogue model with easy to use, dial setting and advanced digital models with bright, easy to read, LED display which facilitates setting of the required temperature and also accurate monitoring of the actual temperature.
Excellent temperature stability and uniformity is maintained via sensitive, microprocessor control.
Heats to 100°C in Specifications
Temperature stability at 37°C: ± 0.1°C
Uniformity within block at 37°C: ± 0.1°C
Uniformity within block at 130°C: ± 1°C
Electrical supply: 230V 50Hz

Number of blocks:
Temperature range :
Display type:
Display resolution:
Dimensions (W x D x H) mm:
Net weight:
Heater power: BH200-2 // BH-200D-2 // BH-200D-2-HT
2
Amb.+8°C to +130°C // Amb.+8°C to +130°C // Amb.+8°C to +200°C
Calibrated knob // LED // LED
10°C // 0,1°C // 0,1°C
235 x 280 x 115mm
2.1kg // 2.3kg // 2.3kg
300W

Number of blocks:
Temperature range:
Display type:
Display resolution:
Dimensions (W x D x H) mm:
Net weight:
Heater power: BH-200D-3 // BH-200D-3-HT
3
Amb.+8°C to +130°C // Amb.+8°C to +200°C
LED
0,1°C
310 x 280 x 115mm
3.2kg
450W

Number of blocks:
Temperature range:
Display type:
Display resolution:
Dimensions (W x D x H) mm:
Net weight:
Heater power: BH-200DC-2 // BH-200DC-2-HT
2 (independent control)
Amb.+8°C to +130°C // +50°C to +200°C
LED
0,1°C
310 x 280 x 115mm
2.9kg
300W

PN	Manuf. PN	Supplier	Description	PK	Type	Price
6207050	SBH130DC	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	Block heater, 2 block, digital, dual control, 130°C	1	BH-200DC-2	3352.81 EU
6323372	SBH200D/3	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	Block heater, 3 block, digital, 200°C	1	BH-200D-3-HT	2113.88 EU
7624685	SBH130D/3	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	Block heater, 3 block, digital, 130°C	1	BH-200D-3	2404.47 EU
9852300	SBH130	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	Block heater, 2 block, analogue, 130°C	1	BH-200-2	1607.27 EU
9852301	SBH130D	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	Block heater, 2 block, digital, 130°C	1	BH-200D-2	2002.87 EU
9852302	SBH200D	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	Block heater, 2 block, digital, 200°C	1	BH-200D-2-HT	2183.60 EU
9852315	SBH200DC	Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart)	Block heater, 2 block, digital, dual control, 200°C	1	BH-200DC-2-HT	3450.64 EU

Block thermostats, QBD, QBH series, accessory covers

Grant Instruments Ltd. (5411)

Block thermostats, QBD, QBH series, accessory covers
Not required with QDP-FL mictrotiter blocks

PN	Manuf. PN	Supplier	Description	PK	Type	Price
9852311	QBL1	Grant Instruments Ltd.	Cover for QBD1	1	QBL1	214.71 EU
9852312	QBL4	Grant Instruments Ltd.	Cover for QBD4	1	QBL4	244.12 EU
9852314	QBL2	Grant Instruments Ltd.	Cover for QBD2 and QBH2	1	QBL2	229.41 EU

Cooling / Heating block Eppendorf ThermoStat C

Eppendorf SE (10245)

Cooling / Heating block Eppendorf ThermoStat C
The ideal device to accurately set and maintain temperatures. Precise temperature control is achieved using optimally balanced heating and cooling elements (peltier technology). The cooling and heating temperature keys provide quick access to five important experimental temperatures (4°C, 16°C, 37°C, 56°C and 95°C). You can also individually store 15 programs.
-Excellent temperature accuracy
-Precise temperature control from -10 to +110°C (+110°C can be set when using 12mm and cryo SmartBlocks?)
-Prevent condensation and improve temperature homogeneity with the new ThermoTop
-Comprehensive range of program functions
Specifications
Temperature operation range: min: +30°C below RT, max: +110°C
Temperature adjustable range: -10 to +110°C (+110°C can be set when using 12mm and cryo SmartBlocks?)
Accuracy/ resolution: ±0.5°C at +20 to +45 °C
Max. heating time: 5.5°C/min
Max. cooling time: 5°C/min between +110°C and RT
Dimensions (W x D x H): 206 x 304 x 131 mm
Capacity: dependent on Eppendorf SmartBlock?
Weight: 4.3 kg
Power consumption: 200 W (max.)
Power supply: 220 - 240 V ±10%, 50/60 Hz

PN	Manuf. PN	Supplier		Description	PK	Type								General	Price	Quantity	Status	Add
9776903	5383000019	Eppendorf SE		Basic device without Eppendorf SmartBlock™	1	Eppendorf ThermoStat C									3222.24 EU

Digital block thermostats QB, for QBD, QBH series

Grant Instruments Ltd. (5416)

Digital block thermostats QB, for QBD, QBH series
Accessory blocks for QB series only. Interchangeable. Aluminium. Block dimensions (L x W x H): 140 x 50 x 63 mm. For e.g. test tubes or microliter vials from 0.2 ml to 2.0 ml.

PN	Manuf. PN	Supplier	For tubes diam.~mm	No.of~holes	PK	Type	Price
6075814	QB-50	Grant Instruments Ltd.	50 ml	4	1	QB-50	220.59 EU
6266809	QB-E5	Grant Instruments Ltd.	5.0 ml	12	1	QB-E5	220.59 EU
9951661	QB-10	Grant Instruments Ltd.	10 mm	24	1	QB-10	220.59 EU
9951662	QB-12	Grant Instruments Ltd.	12 mm	24	1	QB-12	220.59 EU
9951663	QB-16	Grant Instruments Ltd.	16 mm	12	1	QB-16	220.59 EU
9951664	QB-18	Grant Instruments Ltd.	18 mm	12	1	QB-18	220.59 EU
9951665	QB-24	Grant Instruments Ltd.	24 mm	5	1	QB-24	220.59 EU
9951666	QB-H	Grant Instruments Ltd.	0.2 ml	56	1	QB-H	236.42 EU
9951667	QB-E0	Grant Instruments Ltd.	0.5 ml	24	1	QB-E0	235.87 EU
9951668	QB-E1	Grant Instruments Ltd.	1.5 ml	24	1	QB-E1	234.93 EU
9951669	QB-E2	Grant Instruments Ltd.	2.0 ml	24	1	QB-E2	220.59 EU
9951670	QB-0	Grant Instruments Ltd.	solid, for user to drill as required		1	QB-0	179.74 EU

Digital Dry Bath microBLOCK

siehe 9400264 Thistle Scientif (8874)

Digital Dry Bath microBLOCK
Suitable to incubates PCR strips or tubes with sizes up to 50ml. The compact microBLOCK offers the smallest footprint of all digital dry baths on the market combined with a very good heating rate.
-Block material aluminium
-Exchangeable blocks, for different tube sizes from 0.2 to 50 ml
-Timer
-Compact, fits in the palm of your hand
-Clear cover ensures temperature uniformity
-Digital temperature control
Specifications
Temperature Range: Ambient +5 ... 80 °C
Operating Temperature: 5 °C ... 35 °C
Temperature Accuracy: ±0.5 °C
Timer: 0 ... 999 min
Dimensions (W x D x H): 100 mm x 152 mm x 112 mm
Weight: 850 g
Supply requirements: 100-240 V, 50-60 Hz

PN	Manuf. PN	Supplier	Description	PK	Type	Price
4671319	G-MINI	siehe 9400264 Thistle Scientif	2 x 50 ml tubes	1	G-MINI Block	191.18 EU
6312300	A-MINI	siehe 9400264 Thistle Scientif	40 x 0.2 ml tubes (PCR strip tube)	1	A-MINI Block	198.53 EU
6312301	B-MINI	siehe 9400264 Thistle Scientif	24 x 0.5 ml tubes	1	B-MINI Block	198.53 EU
6312302	C-MINI	siehe 9400264 Thistle Scientif	15 x 1.5 ml tubes	1	C-MINI Block	191.18 EU
6312303	D-MINI	siehe 9400264 Thistle Scientif	15 x 2 ml tubes	1	D-MINI Block	191.18 EU
6312304	E-MINI	siehe 9400264 Thistle Scientif	8 x 12,5 ml cuvettes	1	E-MINI Block	246.33 EU
6312305	F-MINI	siehe 9400264 Thistle Scientif	4 x 15 ml tubes	1	F-MINI Block	227.94 EU
9584780	MBDB-01	siehe 9400264 Thistle Scientif	microBLOCK, with Block Lifter (without Block)	1	MBDB-01	504.08 EU

Dry Block Heater

IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG (9499)

Dry Block Heater
Digital block heaters for 1, 2, 3 or 4 aluminium blocks provides precise temperature control in small vessels. Included PT 1000 temperature sensor allows temperature control directly in the sample vessel. It is used with PCR tubes, PCR strips, Greiner tubes, microplates and cuvettes. The block heater is ideal for melting and boiling point determination, enzyme reactions, incubation and activation of cultures, immunoassays, DNA denaturation, culture media tests, coagulation tests, blood-urea-nitrogen determinations and in situ hybridizations.

-Stepless adjustable temperature up to 120°C
-Timer: Countdown, adjustable from 1min to 99h 59min
-Counter: Display of heating time
-Highly versatile with a large number of blocks
-Error code display
-Fixed safety circuit
-Acoustic signal at end of test

Without blocks. Please order separately.
Specifications
Temperature range RT to +120°C
Display: LED
Heat control accuracy: ±1K
Connection for ext. temperature sensor: DIN 12878
Control accuracy with sensor: ±1K
Temperature constancy in medium: ±1K
Temperature stability within the blocks at 37°C: ±0.2°C
Temperature stability within the blocks at 60°C ±0.4°C
Fixed safety circuit: +150°C
Protection class acc. to DIN EN 60529: IP 21
Power supply: 220-240V, 50/60Hz

PN	Manuf. PN	Supplier	Dimensions (W x D x H)~mm	Dimensions Set-up plate (W x D)~mm	PK	Type	Heating capacity~W	Plug type	Price
9816801	0004025100	IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG	151 x 228 x 73	95 x 76	1	Dry Block Heater 1	165	EU	1839.87 EU
9816802	0004025102	IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG	151 x 228 x 73	95 x 76	1	Dry Block Heater 1	165	UK	1824.41 EU
9816803	0004025103	IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG	151 x 228 x 73	95 x 76	1	Dry Block Heater 1	165	CH	1823.31 EU
9816804	0004025200	IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG	151 x 304 x 73	95 x 152	1	Dry Block Heater 2	250	EU	2245.53 EU
9816805	0004025202	IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG	151 x 304 x 73	95 x 152	1	Dry Block Heater 2	250	UK	2262.41 EU
9816806	0004025203	IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG	151 x 304 x 73	95 x 152	1	Dry Block Heater 2	250	CH	2224.78 EU
9816807	0004025300	IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG	151 x 380 x 73	95 x 228	1	Dry Block Heater 3	330	EU	2639.12 EU
9816808	0004025302	IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG	151 x 380 x 73	95 x 228	1	Dry Block Heater 3	330	UK	2608.24 EU
9816809	0004025303	IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG	151 x 380 x 73	95 x 228	1	Dry Block Heater 3	330	CH	2607.13 EU
9816810	0004025400	IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG	151 x 456 x 73	95 x 304	1	Dry Block Heater 4	412	EU	3038.61 EU
9816811	0004025402	IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG	151 x 456 x 73	95 x 304	1	Dry Block Heater 4	412	UK	3005.29 EU
9816812	0004025403	IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG	151 x 456 x 73	95 x 304	1	Dry Block Heater 4	412	CH	3004.19 EU

Dry Block Heater Matrix Δ+

IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG (10133)

Dry Block Heater Matrix D+
Powerful Dry Block Heater for samples with very small volumes, e.g. blood samples, pharmaceutical agents, DNA/RNA samples, DNA/RNA samples or Elisa assays. Wide range of exchangeable attachments for various applications available.
-Without cross-contamination
-Large and clear display with a convenient menu structure allows for intuitive operation
-Robust aluminum die cast housing

Please order attachments separately.
Specifications
Temperature range: ambient -30 ... 100 °C
Temperature control:
Heating/cooling rate: ±1 K
±5 K/min
Uniformity: 0.5 °C
Display:
Programs:
Timer: TFT
2
1 s ... 6000 min
Capacity: 0.3 kg
Dimensions (W x D x H): 220 x 350 x 125 mm
Weight: 8.8 kg
Power consumption: 100 W
Power supply: 100 ... 240 V, 50/60 Hz
IP code: IP 21

PN	Manuf. PN	Supplier		PK	Type									General	Price	Quantity	Status	Add
4664745	0030000717	IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG		1	Matrix Δ+										3395.59 EU

Heating blocks for Thermo shaker LLG-uni1 and 2

LLG Labware (80)

Exchangeable blocks Eppendorf SmartBlocks and accessories for Eppendorf ThermoMixer C and Thermo

Eppendorf SE (9611)

Exchangeable blocks Eppendorf SmartBlocks™ and accessories for Eppendorf ThermoMixer™ C and Thermo

Eppendorf SE (9611)

Heating blocks for Thermo shaker LLG-uni1 and 2 pro

LLG Labware (7913)

Accessories for ThermoMixers and BlockThermostats

Hettich Benelux B.V. (8840)

Aluminium blocks for block heaters BH-200 series

Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart) (5403)

Block Heaters, analogue and digital, BH-200 series

Cole-Parmer Ltd. (Stuart) (6166)

Block thermostats, QBD, QBH series, accessory covers

Grant Instruments Ltd. (5411)

Cooling / Heating block Eppendorf ThermoStat C

Eppendorf SE (10245)

Digital block thermostats QB, for QBD, QBH series

Grant Instruments Ltd. (5416)

Digital Dry Bath microBLOCK

siehe 9400264 Thistle Scientif (8874)

Dry Block Heater

IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG (9499)

Dry Block Heater Matrix Δ+

IKA-Werke GmbH & Co.KG (10133)

Exchangeable blocks Eppendorf SmartBlocks and accessories for Eppendorf ThermoMixer C and Thermo